>> IT'S BEEN NEARLY 25 YEARS SINCE FORMER GOVERNOR PAT QUINN CALLED FOR A REFERENDUM ON WHETHER THE BEARS SHOULD GET TAX DOLLARS FOR THE TEAMS, COSTLY SOLDIER FIELD RENOVATION.

HIS EFFORTS WERE SHOT DOWN AND TAXPAYERS ARE STILL ON THE HOOK FOR SOME 600 MILLION DOLLARS OF THAT REHAB EFFORT.

EVEN THOUGH THE BEARS MIGHT NOT PLAY AT SOLDIER FIELD MUCH LONGER.

NOW AS THE BEARS AND WHITE SOX ARE ON THE HUNT FOR TAXPAYER CASH TO FUND NEW STADIUMS, QUINN SAYS IT'S ONCE AGAIN TIME TO ASK VOTERS, BUT THEY THINK AND JOINING US IS FORMER ILLINOIS GOVERNOR PAT QUINN.

SO GOVERNOR QUINN, YOU FILED AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

YOU YOU WANT, YOU WANT SOME OLDER PEOPLE TO GET PAST.

WHAT WHAT SPECIFICALLY ARE YOU CALLING FOR?

WHAT THE MAYOR IN THE CITY COUNCIL TO PUT IT ON THE NOVEMBER >> THE ORDINANCE CALLS FOR A STRAIGHTFORWARD QUESTION.

SHOULD TAXPAYER SUBSIDY BE USED TO HELP THE BEARS IN THE WHITE SOX?

BUILD NEW STADIUMS OR REAL ESTATE OTHER PLACES AROUND THE COUNTRY.

OTHER CITIES ARE VOTING ON THESE REFERENDUMS JUST LAST WEEK IN KANSAS CITY.

BUT HERE IN CHICAGO, THE UP TO NOW THE POLITICIANS DON'T WANT THE PEOPLE TO BE HEARD.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO REALLY WORK HARD TO THE FEW WEEKS TO GET THOSE MAYOR, ESPECIALLY TO BE A LEADER HERE.

GIVE VOTERS A CHANCE TO VOTE A REFERENDUM THAT REALLY MATTERS.

AND WE KNOW THE HISTORY HERE.

WELL, THERE'S A PROPOSAL FOR A THE NEW WHITE SOX STADIUM, JERRY REINSDORF, THE WHITE SOX OWNER GOT THE CURRENT STADIUM FUNDED NEARLY ENTIRELY BY TAXPAYERS.

>> OF SOLDIER FIELD TO THE RENOVATIONS AND WE'RE STILL PAYING THAT OFF 660 MILLION DOLLARS IS WHAT THE COST IS, INTEREST PAYMENTS AND WE'LL BE PAYING FOR THE NEXT 8 YEARS.

2032 AND THE BEARS NOW WANT TO TEAR DOWN SOLDIER FIELD LEAVE.

ONLY THE COLONY AND THEN BUILD NEW STADIUM FOR THEMSELVES AND IN THE PARKING LOT SOUTH OF SOLDIER WHEN YOU SAY TAXPAYERS FOOTING THE BILL, DO YOU MEAN FOR THE STADIUM ITSELF OR FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THEIR CAUSE?

LOT OF TEAMS PROPOSE WELL, CAN YOU HELP US OUT WITH SOME ROADS, INFRASTRUCTURE?

MAYBE YOU KNOW, IF WE DEVELOP AROUND THERE?

WELL, A LOT OF THEIR PROPOSAL SOUND GOOD.

IF YOU SAY IT FAST, YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW THE DETAILS, PARTICULARLY WITH BEARS.

IT'S VERY MURKY.

WHAT EXACTLY THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AS FAR AS TAXPAYER MONEY.

SO IT'S BETTER FIRST AS THE TAXPAYERS, YOU WON'T EVEN GET INTO YOU KNOW, 660 MILLION COULD HAVE PAID FOR A LOT OF HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED HOUSING IN CHICAGO A LOT OF OTHER THINGS, WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY LURE WE SHOULD JUST INVEST THEIR MONEY IN SPORTS STADIUMS WE ALREADY HAVE SOLDIER FIELD.

WE HAVE MODELED INTO A SPACESHIP.

>> BY THE TAXPAYERS AND I GO TO WAS IN THE UPPER DECK OF WAY PARK FOR OPENING DAY.

IT LOOKS GOOD TO ME.

MY CONDOLENCES TO ARE THEY'RE GOING FOR ONE 9.

SO HOW DIFFERENT DO YOU THINK THE BEAR SITUATION WOULD BE HAD THE VOTERS HAD YOUR REFERENDUM PASSING?

VOTERS HAD TO SAY PERHAPS THEY WOULD HAVE VOTED DOWN THAT PLAN.

WE WOULD SAVE ALL THAT MONEY MATTER OF FACT, THE BEARS HIT STRUCK A DEAL AND NEAR DAILY WHERE THE BEARS WOULD SELL.

THE NAME OF SOLDIER FIELD IS GOING TO BE SOLD TO BANK ONE.

>> SO IT'S GOING TO BE BANK.

ONE FIELD AT SOLDIER FIELD AND THE YOU KNOW, 300 MILLION DOLLARS WAS GOING TO BE GIVEN TO THE BEARS JUST FOR THIS WAS MAYBE IT WAS AFTER 9.11 WHERE THE MAYOR CAME OUT AND SAID, WELL, NOW YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE NAME SOLDIER FIELD, THE KIND OF STRONG ARM THEM ON THAT WE HAVE THAT WE PUT IN THE MAYOR'S PRECINCT, US HOME ADVISORY QUESTION, AT LEAST IN THE PRECINCT.

SHOULD WE SELL THE NAME OF SOLDIER FIELD WAR MEMORIAL IN PEOPLE VOTED?

NO.

I THINK MAYOR GOT THE WORD AND I THINK CURRENT MAYOR, YOU KNOW, HE RAN A CAMPAIGN OF GRASSROOTS DEMOCRACY.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KANSAS CITY.

THEY HAD A PATRICK MAHOMES AND TRAVIS TRAVIS KELSEY AND ALL THESE GUYS SAYING VOTE YES FOR A REFERENDUM TAX PAYER MONEY FOR A NEW STADIUM FOR THE CHIEFS.

VOTERS SAID NO, WE LIKE YOU GUYS ON THE FIELD, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR.

AND THIS WAS ONLY 3 ACE OF A SALES TO A LOT OF MONEY.

YEAH.

AEDS UP AFTER A WHILE.

YEAH.

POINT OF THE MATTER IS FOR TOO LONG IN ILLINOIS IN CHICAGO, VOTERS HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO VOTE ISSUES AS WELL AS CANDIDATES.

THAT'S WHAT REFERENDUMS ARE ALL ABOUT.

BELIEVE IN REFERENCE SOMEONE CAN MAKE THE ARGUMENT, THOUGH, WE SAY IN CALIFORNIA THEY GOVERNED BY REFERENDUM A LOT MORE THAN AN IN ILLINOIS.

IT COULD GET MINUTES MISSOURI, MIDWEST STATES HAVE ALL KINDS OF REFERENDUMS PUT THE BALLOT BY VOTERS.

A LOT OF TIMES INSIDERS DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT ALL FROM THE PUBLIC SO THEY DON'T LIKE REFERENDUMS, BUT IT'S TIME NOW TO TAKE CHARGE.

IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED.

ALLIES IN CITY COUNCIL CARRY THIS FORWARD.

YOU HAVE ANYBODY.

I'VE SAID ALL INFORMATION, THE COSTS TO THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND I COULD GET A HOLD OF AND I'M HOPEFUL THEY COULD THEY SEE THE LIGHT.

I THINK A LOT OF COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW THAT WE HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES.

WE DEFINITELY HAVE HOUSING ISSUES.

WE JUST HAD A REFERENDUM THAT WAS ON THE BALLOT DEALING WITH HOUSING, BRING HOME CHICAGO.

WELL, DIDN'T PASS.

BUT GIVING MORE MONEY TO THE BEARS TO BUILD ANOTHER STADIUM SO THEY CAN TEAR DOWN THE ONE THEY GOT.

THAT DOESN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE FOR HOUSING.

YOU KNOW, WE NEED A PREVENT DEFENSE AGAINST THE BEARS FOR TAXPAYERS TO WITH THEY'RE NOT WELL, YOU KNOW, THE WHITE SOX OWNER, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE TO GUESS THAT HE WOULD GO DOWN IN SPRINGFIELD HAT IN HAND, ASKING FOR NEARLY THE WHOLE.

>> THE WHOLE POT OF MONEY HERE FOR HIS NEW STADIUM.

BEAUTIFUL, THOUGH THOSE PLANS MAYBE SAYS MIGHT HAVE TO MOVE THE TEAM.

IF IF YOU CAN'T GET SOME AS A WHITE SOX FAN, ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT THE THE OWNERS, A TRUSTEE FOR THE FANS?

I'M A FAN OF LIFELONG FAN AND SACKS.

WHEN I WAS GOVERNOR I WAS FOR THE SAX.

THE CUBS AND SOMETIMES WHEN THE CARDINALS ARE IN THE PLAYOFFS, SOUTHERN ILLINOIS IS CARDINAL FAN BASEBALL THAT THE EAST ST. LOUIS BELLVILLE AREA.

IT'S IMPORTANT ST. LOUIS ONCE UPON A TIME, THE POINT IS FANS SHOULD COME FIRST.

TAXPAYERS SHOULD COME FIRST.

YOU KNOW, I'M A FAN OF ALL THE TEAMS, BUT I'M A FAN NUMBER ONE OF THE TAXPAYERS IN WE CAN'T HAVE BEEN CHICAGO, HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY, TAXPAYER MONEY GOING TO BUILD NEW STADIUMS.

WE HAVE SUCH CRANE NEEDS AND OTHER THINGS END.

>> GIVING PEOPLE A CHANCE AT THE BALLOT BOX TO SEND A MESSAGE TO THE MAYOR AND TO THE CITY COUNCIL IS THE HEALTHIEST WAY TO GO.

THE BEST WAY TO GO.

>> GOVERNOR, YOU FLIRTED YOU.

THIS IS NOT THE FIRST REFERENDUM IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.

YOU ASKED FOR TERM LIMITS.

THE FORMER MAYOR DIDN'T REALLY DO MUCH ON THAT.

NO, HE HE WENT TO THE TERM.

HE WENT A REFERENDUM PLASTIC STRAWS INSTEAD OF A BINDING REFERENDUM AND TERM LIMITS FOR THAT WAS A MANUAL.

THAT WAS A MAN.

BUT THEN THEN THEN UNDER LIGHTFOOT TO THE WE'RE PROPOSING SHE PUTTING ON THE YOU KNOW, EVERY OTHER BIG CITY IN AMERICA HAS A 2 TERM LIMIT.

AND THE MAYOR, NEW YORK, LOS ANGELES, PHILADELPHIA, HOUSTON, YOU NAME IT.

WE DON'T.

AND FOR 2 MILE LONG, I THINK WE WE SHOULD HAVE ON THE BALLOT FOR PEOPLE TO IT WOULD BE BINDING.

YOU THE PEOPLE OF CHICAGO PAY THE TAXES.

THEY SHOULD BE IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT, NOT JUST THE INSIDERS TELLING EVERYDAY PEOPLE LIVING FROM PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK.

WHAT TO DO.

TIME FOR US TO SEND THE MESSAGE.

ALL RIGHT.

GOVERNOR CUOMO, THE MESSAGES OUT HERE ON CHICAGO TONIGHT.

I HAVE TO SAY YOU'RE MY LAST OFFICIAL INTERVIEW ON CHICAGO TONIGHT HERE, MY CAREERS WTW TO.

>> IT'S AN TO DO IT.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE.

I COVERED YOU FOR MANY YEARS AS VERY TIMES YOU KNOW,